
Left: Nicky Barnes, Right: Frank Lucas
Check it out..a conversation with the real dope kings of New York, Frank Lucas and Nicky Barnes.
NICKY BARNES: Hey, hey, what’s up, playa?
FRANK LUCAS: Hey, Nick.
NB: I heard you’re in a wheelchair. What’s going on?
FL: Broke a leg, Nick. Two places.
NB: Damn.
FL: So what’s with you, man?
NB: Chilling, dude.
MARK JACOBSON: You two guys talking is something of an occasion. Ever think you’d be in the history books?
NB: I don’t know about history—
FL: Hey, Nick! I told everybody and their momma you’ll be hooking up with me in Harlem in the next two years.
NB: You won’t see me in Harlem … I gave up 109 federal felony offenses ’cause I had powder in Brooklyn and the Bronx. Too many people would be gunning for me in New York.
FL: Come on, Nick, you don’t give a damn about them little kamikazes out in the street. I been knowing you for fortysomething years.
MJ: Do you remember when you guys first met?
FL: When was it, Nick? The night you come outta jail. Was that 1970, ’69, ’68?
NB: Yeah, ’70. We met through Jimmy Terrell. Remember Jimmy Terrell? Remember Goldfinger?
FL: ’Course I remember the Goldfinger.
NB: We were in Smalls, drinking. You remember this dude Prat that had that habitual stool right next to—
FL: Yeah, Prat! He didn’t live long after that, did he?
NB: Somebody knocked him over. He owed somebody some money or something.
FL: Right. He was going at somebody’s woman…
MJ: You guys have been described as being competitors. Is that true?
FL: Well, Nick wasn’t gonna catch me—I was paying $4,000 a key. Nick, you was probably paying $65,000 or $70,000, weren’t you?
NB: During that time I was paying $35,000.
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